Subjectivity - Revision history

Jfromm: /* The resolution */

2012-05-11T21:56:02Z

The resolution

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	== The resolution ==		== The resolution ==

	To understand (the subjective experience of) other people, we must ~~achieve~~ a basic form a empathy,		To understand (the subjective experience of) other people, we must reach a basic form a empathy, i.e. we must try to walk along the same path they did, at least virtually. As Harper Lee writes in her novel "To Kill a Mockingbird", "you never really know a man until you stand in his shoes and walk around in them." You need to walk in someone else's shoes in order to understand the person, you need to view the situation from their perspective.
	i.e. we must try to walk along the same path they did, at least virtually. We must try to..
			Therefore to comprehend the subjective experience of other people, we must try to..

	* understand where they come from and where they have been		* understand where they come from and where they have been
	* step into their shoes		* step into their shoes and walk along their path
	* see the world from their perspective		* see the world from their perspective

Jfromm at 21:49, 11 May 2012

2012-05-11T21:49:16Z

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	'''Subjectivity''' is generally defined as a judgment based on individual personal impressions		'''Subjectivity''' is generally defined as a judgment based on individual personal impressions
	and feelings or opinions rather than external facts. Subjective experience is responsible for the elusiveness of [[Consciousness\|consciousness]]. It can be considered as observer-dependence or observer-dependent judgement, similar to [[Path Dependence\|path dependence]] and [[Context Dependence\|context dependence]], and it is indeed related to both.		and feelings or opinions rather than external facts. Subjective experience is responsible for the elusiveness of [[Consciousness\|consciousness]]. It can be considered as observer-dependence or observer-dependent judgement, similar to [[Path Dependence\|path dependence]] and [[Context Dependence\|context dependence]], and it is indeed related to both. It can be considered as the result of [[Path Dependence\|path dependent]] learning, which can only be understood by considering the corresponding path.

	== The observer ==		== The observer ==
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	* objective: external spatial or physical dimension which can be measured in a certain physical unit		* objective: external spatial or physical dimension which can be measured in a certain physical unit

			== The resolution ==

			To understand (the subjective experience of) other people, we must achieve a basic form a empathy,
			i.e. we must try to walk along the same path they did, at least virtually. We must try to..

			* understand where they come from and where they have been
			* step into their shoes
			* see the world from their perspective

	== Links ==		== Links ==

Jfromm: /* The dimension */

2012-02-21T22:42:34Z

The dimension

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	== The dimension ==		== The dimension ==

			Objective things exist in the external, objective reality and can be measure by a spatial or physical dimension like length, time or temperature. Unlike objective things, subjective things are measured in an internal dimension which is only accessible by the observer, the god/bad or pleasure/displeasure dimension of the observer:

	* subjective: internal pleasure/displeasure dimension which determines if something is good or bad and spans all subjective feelings		* subjective: internal pleasure/displeasure dimension which determines if something is good or bad and spans all subjective feelings

Jfromm at 22:38, 21 February 2012

2012-02-21T22:38:25Z

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	'''Subjectivity''' is generally defined as a judgment based on individual personal impressions		'''Subjectivity''' is generally defined as a judgment based on individual personal impressions
	and feelings or opinions rather than external facts. Subjective experience is responsible for the elusiveness of [[Consciousness\|consciousness]]. It can be considered as observer-dependence or observer-dependent judgement, similar to [[Path Dependence\|path-dependence]] and [[Context Dependence\|context-dependence]], and it is indeed related to both.		and feelings or opinions rather than external facts. Subjective experience is responsible for the elusiveness of [[Consciousness\|consciousness]]. It can be considered as observer-dependence or observer-dependent judgement, similar to [[Path Dependence\|path dependence]] and [[Context Dependence\|context dependence]], and it is indeed related to both.

	== The observer ==		== The observer ==

Jfromm at 22:38, 21 February 2012

2012-02-21T22:38:00Z

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	'''Subjectivity''' is generally defined as a judgment based on individual personal impressions		'''Subjectivity''' is generally defined as a judgment based on individual personal impressions
	and feelings or opinions rather than external facts. Subjective experience is responsible for the elusiveness of [[Consciousness\|consciousness]].		and feelings or opinions rather than external facts. Subjective experience is responsible for the elusiveness of [[Consciousness\|consciousness]]. It can be considered as observer-dependence or observer-dependent judgement, similar to [[Path Dependence\|path-dependence]] and [[Context Dependence\|context-dependence]], and it is indeed related to both.

	== The observer ==		== The observer ==

Jfromm: /* The observer */

2012-02-21T22:35:30Z

The observer

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	Subjective experience always belongs to someone, the one who experiences it. Every subjective state/feeling/experience is always someone's state/feeling/experience, because subjective measurements, observations and experiences depend on the observer who observes the thing in question. The observer in turn must judge the thing by some criterion. In the last resort the genes of the observer are the jury which decides if the thing is good or bad, pleasant or unpleasant. Often there is a group of people and not a single person who makes subjective judgements. For example in subjective sports events like figure skating, there is always a committee appointed to judge a competition.		Subjective experience always belongs to someone, the one who experiences it. Every subjective state/feeling/experience is always someone's state/feeling/experience, because subjective measurements, observations and experiences depend on the observer who observes the thing in question. The observer in turn must judge the thing by some criterion. In the last resort the genes of the observer are the jury which decides if the thing is good or bad, pleasant or unpleasant. Often there is a group of people and not a single person who makes subjective judgements. For example in subjective sports events like figure skating, there is always a committee appointed to judge a competition.

	~~Something~~ is subjective if it belongs to someone, or if there is a jury necessary for the measurement:		Therefore something is subjective if it belongs to someone, or if there is a jury necessary for the measurement:

	* subjective: if there is a jury somewhere, for example a group of people which has to decide if s.th. is good or bad. The common unit to measure subjective things are points or votes.		* subjective: if there is a jury somewhere, for example a group of people which has to decide if s.th. is good or bad. The common unit to measure subjective things are points or votes.

	* objective: if it can be ~~measure~~ by a measure or unit. Things are measured in exactly this unit.		* objective: if it can be measured by a measure or unit. Things are measured in exactly this unit.

	== The dimension ==		== The dimension ==

Jfromm: /* The observer */

2012-02-21T22:34:55Z

The observer

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	== The observer ==		== The observer ==

	Subjective experience always belongs to someone, the one who experiences it. Every subjective state/feeling/experience is always someone's state/feeling/experience, because subjective measurements, observations and experiences depend on the observer who observes the thing in question. The observer in turn must judge the thing by some criterion. In the last resort the genes of the observer are the jury which decides if the thing is good or bad, pleasant or unpleasant. Often there is a group of people and not a single person who makes subjective judgements. For example in subjective sports events like figure skating, there is always a committee appointed to judge a competition. ~~'''~~Something is subjective if there is a jury~~'''~~ necessary for the measurement:		Subjective experience always belongs to someone, the one who experiences it. Every subjective state/feeling/experience is always someone's state/feeling/experience, because subjective measurements, observations and experiences depend on the observer who observes the thing in question. The observer in turn must judge the thing by some criterion. In the last resort the genes of the observer are the jury which decides if the thing is good or bad, pleasant or unpleasant. Often there is a group of people and not a single person who makes subjective judgements. For example in subjective sports events like figure skating, there is always a committee appointed to judge a competition.

			Something is subjective if it belongs to someone, or if there is a jury necessary for the measurement:

	* subjective: if there is a jury somewhere, for example a group of people which has to decide if s.th. is good or bad. The common unit to measure subjective things are points or votes.		* subjective: if there is a jury somewhere, for example a group of people which has to decide if s.th. is good or bad. The common unit to measure subjective things are points or votes.

Jfromm: /* The observer */

2012-02-21T22:32:55Z

The observer

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	== The observer ==		== The observer ==

	Subjective experience always belongs to someone. Every subjective state/feeling/experience is always someone's state/feeling/experience, because subjective measurements, observations and experiences depend on the observer who observes the thing in question. The observer in turn must judge the thing by some criterion. In the last resort the genes of the observer are the jury which decides if the thing is good or bad, pleasant or unpleasant. Often there is a group of people and not a single person who makes subjective judgements. For example in subjective sports events like figure skating, there is always a committee appointed to judge a competition. '''Something is subjective if there is a jury''' necessary for the measurement:		Subjective experience always belongs to someone, the one who experiences it. Every subjective state/feeling/experience is always someone's state/feeling/experience, because subjective measurements, observations and experiences depend on the observer who observes the thing in question. The observer in turn must judge the thing by some criterion. In the last resort the genes of the observer are the jury which decides if the thing is good or bad, pleasant or unpleasant. Often there is a group of people and not a single person who makes subjective judgements. For example in subjective sports events like figure skating, there is always a committee appointed to judge a competition. '''Something is subjective if there is a jury''' necessary for the measurement:

	* subjective: if there is a jury somewhere, for example a group of people which has to decide if s.th. is good or bad. The common unit to measure subjective things are points or votes.		* subjective: if there is a jury somewhere, for example a group of people which has to decide if s.th. is good or bad. The common unit to measure subjective things are points or votes.

Jfromm at 22:32, 21 February 2012

2012-02-21T22:32:32Z

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	* subjective: if there is a jury somewhere, for example a group of people which has to decide if s.th. is good or bad. The common unit to measure subjective things are points or votes.		* subjective: if there is a jury somewhere, for example a group of people which has to decide if s.th. is good or bad. The common unit to measure subjective things are points or votes.

	* objective: if it can be measure by a measure or unit. Things are ~~measure~~ in this unit.		* objective: if it can be measure by a measure or unit. Things are measured in exactly this unit.

	== The dimension ==		== The dimension ==

Jfromm at 22:31, 21 February 2012

2012-02-21T22:31:40Z

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	== The observer ==		== The observer ==

	Subjective measurements, observations and experiences depend on the observer who observes the thing in question. The observer in turn must judge the thing by some criterion. In the last resort the genes of the observer are the jury which decides if the thing is good or bad, pleasant or unpleasant. Often there is a group of people and not a single person who makes subjective judgements. For example in subjective sports events like figure skating, there is always a committee appointed to judge a competition. '''Something is subjective if there is a jury''' necessary for the measurement:		Subjective experience always belongs to someone. Every subjective state/feeling/experience is always someone's state/feeling/experience, because subjective measurements, observations and experiences depend on the observer who observes the thing in question. The observer in turn must judge the thing by some criterion. In the last resort the genes of the observer are the jury which decides if the thing is good or bad, pleasant or unpleasant. Often there is a group of people and not a single person who makes subjective judgements. For example in subjective sports events like figure skating, there is always a committee appointed to judge a competition. '''Something is subjective if there is a jury''' necessary for the measurement:

	* subjective: if there is a jury somewhere, for example a group of people which has to decide if s.th. is good or bad. The common unit to measure subjective things are points or votes.		* subjective: if there is a jury somewhere, for example a group of people which has to decide if s.th. is good or bad. The common unit to measure subjective things are points or votes.